2:14] has ceased from sin, 2 # Rom. The judgment of God exercised in suffering, 1 Peter 4:17-18 5. For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, … Can’t that happen after we are no longer in our earthsuit? If a Woman Can’t be a Husband, She Can’t be a Pastor, Right? Not everyone who professes to believe is saved, and I do see this being dealt with in this context. I notice you don’t have any comments on Hebrews 13:4 in your scripture archive, and wondered which conclusion you come to about this verse? John 6:40 “And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”. Rom 8:38-39 says that nothing, not even death, will be able to separate us from the love of God. Learn how your comment data is processed. In light of this awful persecution, Peter wrote to bring perspective. But rejoice that you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. Very helpful. The person making the appeal, 1 Peter 5:1 b. And the speedy approach of death and judgment concerns all, to which these words naturally lead our minds. preaching it, and succeeds the ministry of it; and it being his Love will not take hostages. “Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.”. It’s a gift that needs to be received. Here on earth if someone forces their love on you without your consent, it is considered to be rape. Is Peter saying Christians can lose their salvation? 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the elect who are sojourners of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Bible in Basic English. 5:15 so as to live for # ch. My take on the “every knee will bow” verse is this: Every eye that looks at the sun shall blink. Peter said “Christ died for sins once for all” (1 Pet 3:18). First let me address Brandon. (, California - Do Not Sell My Personal Information. I contest that the “goats” are man’s Adamic nature. The door is now open, the curtain torn, and the way is clear. I’ve often wondered how to reconcile that with believers’ secure salvation and place of no condemnation through faith in Christ Jesus. Why are you so concerned about them what about Moses , what about Elijah, what about Enoch. Thank you so very much. You build foolishly if you ignore the words of Jesus. Would he not be unjust if he punished twice for the same offence. Thanks. A universalist might say that God will one day reconcile the world to Himself, but Romans 5:10 and 2 Cor 5 tell us that God has already done that through Christ. 6:14; 14:7; 2 Cor. Been reading the comments. They were not Jews under the law……. When God gave us the freedom to choose, He knew that some would choose to reject Him and that death and eternal separation would be the result. It’s not “specious” to say that if by one man Adam got us all condemned and by one Man Christ only some us will be saved then Adam and Satan did a greater work than God. Verse 23 spoke of the readers being born again or born anew. So the argument that God will force salvation onto everybody does not hold water – if God’s grace will override mankind’s rebellion in the spiritual dimension, why doesn’t He step in right now and put an end to all the suffering in the natural realm as well? Good Stewards of God’s Grace. For it is time for judgment to begin with the house of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? We are saved by grace but we must then live by the Spirit, stay away from sin, confess and repent continually. of
Because people need to believe it. Faith: Another common universalist view is that since faith is gift of the spirit, He is solely responsible for making us place that faith in Christ. Biblical Commentary (Bible Study) 1 Peter 4:12-16 EXEGESIS: THE CONTEXT: Recipients of this letter are experiencing trials, harsh treatment, and suffering (1:6-7; 2:18-20; 3:13-17; 4:1-4, 12-19; 5:10). Some people seem to take perverse delight in threatening others with the sword of God’s judgment. Hey Paul, another great post! Probably because the place is remote or because French language dominates. The Gospel in Ten Words Sir, we are blessed. The appeal to the elders, 1 Peter 5:1-4 a. The rest of my post didn’t come up, only the end part of it. Story of ananias and sapphira really bothers me. Grace and peace. Indeed Paul never mentions it. ( when did we not ). He said it’s a promise from Jesus, so we can be rejected and send to hell. The whole message of the Bible reveals salvation dependent on repentance and faith. And, “If it is hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner?” Straighten up and fly right. The key to understanding 1 Peter 4:17 is the word judgment. It’s for your own good.”. This is why Peter urges them to continue doing good, even in the face of persecution (4:17). We have been forgiven. The Hyper-Grace Gospel God is addressing this as a comforting message to the saints at all times. If you are angry, I’ll go join the army and put it to use. Now the Rome itself was out to get them. Peter knew from personal experience what it was like to run from Jesus and he didn’t want his readers doing that. 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, American Standard Version. Hi Dr. Paul, thanks for the direction. ___________. Finally, if the punishment that brought us peace was placed on Christ (Is 53:5), how can God now punish us? Scripture quoted by permission. A reader asked me about this several weeks ago and I have now have post on this very topic primed to go. Proverbs 14:12 NIV “There is a way that appears to be right, but in the end it leads to death.”, paul is teaching the gospel of grace… that offers salvation to all people and teaches us to say no to ungodliness and worldly passions, so that we will live sober, righteous and godly lives in the here and now (titus 2:11-12) him; as the grace of God, the righteousness of God, peace with Your argument that “Adam and Satan have done a greater work than Christ if any die” is specious. You may be worried about persecution but you do not need to worry about God letting you go. I can’t embrace this doctrine aand still be faithful to scripture. Above each Greek word there is a transliteration which helps people to pronounce the word, and linked to each transliterated word there is a page which gives a list of other places where the same word is used in the bible, together with translations from NAS, KJV, and the Interlinear Bible. But the good news was worth it. It’s finished! Awesome article (as usual)! What’s so Special about Christ’s Right Hand? Every single one of us responds to Jesus one way or another. IF so, what curses is Paul talking about? Even in the o.t. Thanks. By the house of God is either meant the temple at Jerusalem, You must choose. I find nothing in life or the Bible that supports this and much evidence to support the contrary notion that we go astray or are led astray. cannot be inflicted on them; but afflictions and persecutions, As I already said, the parable is not the only part of Scripture that supports the existence of Hell. I have ask God many times if it is the truth and all I hear is I love youu unconditionally so now when I start thinking old religious ways I meditate John 3:16. 4 Now those “friends” think it is strange that you no longer join them in all the wild and wasteful things they do. I choose to believe in the finished work of the cross. 2) My second question/ comment is in reference to ‘universalism’ vs. whatever the specific version of an irremediable sentence to hell one believes in. You’re right it isn’t part of the Gospel. Lou, parables were meant to convey a truth. v.14: “you are insulted because of the name of Christ” You seem to be making arguments on the basis of your sense of fair-play. All rights reserved. Because of Nero Christians were being tortured and killed for their faith in Christ. Biblical Commentary (Bible Study) 1 Peter 1:17-23 EXEGESIS: THE CONTEXT: • Verses 1-2 open by identifying the author as “Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ”—and the recipients as “the chosen ones who are living as foreigners (exiles) in the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia” (all located in … We have been redeemed and sanctified by the blood of the Lamb. Similarly, falling down in reverence is a perfectly normal reaction to seeing Jesus in all his true glory. Hi Lewis, the point is that it does say just that in the passage you refer to it depends what lense you look through, for me this is one of the great grace messages Jesus gave. 1 Peter 5:8 Parallel Verses [⇓ See commentary ⇓] 1 Peter 5:8, NIV: "Be alert and of sober mind.Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." The universalist view negates any faith response from a believer and rejects any form of responsibility. “It’s going to hard for us who are Christians, but ultimately it will go harder on those who are not.” The first-century Christians of Judea were suffering because they obeyed the gospel; so “what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (v.17). Blessings. And I can even boast because the bible isn’t primarily concerned with our sin, though we must be against it, but with getting what Jesus paid for – a relationship with Abba Father. I personally wonder if the inextinguishable fires of hell are reserved for Satan and the fallen angels who tormented, deceived, etc. “It 3 will not leave even a root or branch. I was wondering what thoughts people may have as to why He said what He did here. I believe why it says many were affected in the fall is to be taken in the same sense as ,” many will be affected because of Jesus”. The Grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men, but not all men will put their faith in him. Bad things are still happening because men still adhere to their fallen state and the Church, especially in the West, is utterly in shambles, powerless. See Eph 2:8, Rm 10:10 – I don’t know how more clear the Bible could be on this point. family of God: and by judgment is meant, not punishment for sin, 1 Peter 4:17. But Christ came through the womb and saved us all. Thank you Chris. Time is short. Sorry that comment above was super long; my bad. It is that His sheep help where help is needed not just where they think it is justified and they do so because of the effect of grace on them.The wording implies that the goats consider these people the least showing again that they do not exhibit Grace. For the time is come that judgment must begin at the He will simply separate those who have found their rest in him from those who refuse him. 1) John 9:39 “for judgment I came into the world…’ Don’t you think Jesus could have essentially been saying that His mission in coming to earth was to RECEIVE judgement – namely the judgement due the human race? For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God By the house of God is either meant the temple at Jerusalem, which is often so called, because it was built for God, and where were the symbol of his presence, and his worship; and now the time was come, or at hand, that God would begin at his … He is the one who will soon judge everyone—those who are still living and those who have died. It was more in-depth about what I was saying; I don’t know why it didn’t come up. I write this as I would write to a friend talking about deep and heavy matters. No worries. Sadly, some won’t. To ‘hell’ something is to bury it in a hole or pit, out of sight.”. Posted on February 24, 2011 by Paul Ellis // 63 Comments, For it is time for judgment to begin with the house of God; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God? Do you have any insights in this? Philadelphia has been on my to-do list for about a year. However, I can’t quite work out what this judgement looks like, if it is not the re-trying of sin which has already been paid for. Well done. Was Jesus serious about plucking eyes? Many are still part of the original sin but still have life. 1 Peter 4:18 - And if it is with difficulty that the righteous is saved , what will become of the godless man and the sinner ? Westcott & Hort GNT - Literal Translation Greek & English 1 Peter 4 > > Interlinear . In the original Greek this word is krima which means decision or decree. everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and But the good news is “Ephesians 1:10 ‘That in the dispensation of the fullness of times He might gather together in one ALL things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in Him’ ”. It has encouraged me so much. On the one hand the universalist believes that ALL will be saved, regardless of what they believe or whether they even believe at all. your tone of voice says your angry, yet I can’t see a worshipping child continuing in faith angry. It seems like they have to prove they are right, to fully persuade themselves about what they believe because they are hoping they are correct. So just disregard “root words” when it doesn’t fit the doctrine? They may talk about Ananias and Sapphira but ignore Jesus. It comes from a revelation of the Father’s love as expressed in the Son’s perfect work on the cross. 1 Peter 1:9-12 KJV  Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. But God’s gifts are greater, right? It refers to a rich man and a beggar, that’ it. You may be interested in my recent “Conversations about hell” and “What happens to babies who die?”. I think it can be possible through DHL, post office or any other postal agency. I do see the phrase, “household of God” as an indication that there are That Adamic nature has many names, imho: self, carnal man, earthy, vessel of dishonor, goat, chaff, etc. Pat Hux. In other words, do you believe we are condemned for Adam’s sins or our own? 4. The first times of The fact is, you and I were in Adam when he made his choice AND we are each offered a choice of our own. The root word does not take away or detract from the fact that the Bible teaches there is a place of eternal separation from God. Jesus exposes the motivation of both groups as being what is important. Peter encourages them with a vision of "an incorruptible and undefiled inheritance that doesn't fade away, reserved in Heaven that get thrown into the Lake of Fire is the carnal man not the man God created. I also came close to believing the bible is ,”just a book” which ade believing this doctrine super appealing and easy to embrace. ( Log Out / I started looking up articles about Hell on the internet. When Peter says it’s judgment time for the church, he is most likely referring to the judgment of Nero against the Christians. It hurts now, but justice is coming. Whosoever wants to drink of jesus ( the many) , will be saved but whosoever wants to follow in Adams steps ( the many) he can do that too. These are just my thoughts. God would never knowingly put this entire world in the chaos it is in. It talks about him killing Jezebel and removing lampstands. Thanks for your thoughts as always. Strip away the jargon and their message is: “Bad things are going to happen to you. You are teaching a gospel of believing in Jesus and afterwards doing whatever you want. 4 Since Christ suffered in the flesh,+ you too arm yourselves with the same mental disposition;* because the person who has suffered in the flesh has desisted from sins,+ 2 so that he may live the remainder of his time in the flesh, no more for the desires of men,+ but for God’s will.+ 3 For the time that has passed … “The Greek word translated Hell is Hades, coming from ‘a(i)des’. It’s the decision of a judge or authority. I was in them when they came here. I know I’m late to the party here, but I had two thoughts I wanted to share: I began Escape to Reality with a series of studies on the churches of Revelations 2-3. I don’t want a confusing lap of realities. Great article! None of them taught “universalism”. also suggests, that these sufferings and afflictions were but for They will refer to patterns of judgment in the Old Testament but make no mention of the cross. Finally, a universalist by definition is one believes that all will be saved. They seem to forget that all of our sins were dealt with at the cross. Just ‘cuz it says Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world doesn’t mean because God knew he would sin. God will lose no one. It is quite possible that there are aspects of life that we may put too much value on and other parts we do not want to accept. He even had to to tell His own disciples what they meant because they themselves weren’t sure. If all will be saved no matter what, then faith is irrelevant. The words of Jesus in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus do not support your view Lou. For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God? It is man’s responsibility to walk in that righteousness, common sense would tell anybody that when one disobeys he loses his righteousness unless he repents remorsefully and get connected again to the living God. NIV®. Better to suffer “according to God’s will” (v.19) meaning on account of the gospel, than to suffer the far greater consequences of rejecting the life that Christ offers. If an earthly father knows how to give good gifts to his children how much more your Father in Heaven? ( Log Out / Would you please respond. 2: “Therefore God exalted Him to the highest place and gave Him the Name that is above every name, that at the Name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (the Greek word here can mean ‘subterranean; infernal, belonging to the world of departed souls), and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” This could mean that eventually EVERY soul will realize who Christ is – unless this verse means that God is forcing some to kneel against their will – which I know you cannot abide the thought of (and neither can I.) You have to stretch and speculate to arrive at your conclusion. be confirmed by signs and wonders, so that it should be tried and On the other hand they believe that IF faith is required in order to be saved, then God will give us that faith, no… force that faith onto us. No, because your sins were covered and paid for by the blood of Christ. The exhortation to Christian sufferers, 1 Peter 4:19 E. The appeals to the church in view of Christian suffering, 1 Peter 5:1-11 1. That’s why you can have to “churches” on the same street and neither one will unite with the other. I’m mindful and Apostle will have a greater reward in Heaven than let’s say a guy who lived a wicked life and never embraced what Christ did but that same wicked man will one day no longer be wicked and will live. I like this. Jesus didn’t share your uncertainty about hell. If you were a follower of Christ back then, martyrdom was a real prospect. All men are saved through Christ and Christ alone. The good news of God’s grace will not be heard unless those who preach it are bold. haha. The duties of the elders, 1 Peter 5:2a c. The parable does not prove eternal hell. Imagine again telling Christians that Christ died for our sins , past, present and future and if one steals, rapes, or even commits adultery he is safe because Christ already died for his sins. time was come, or at hand, that God would begin at his sanctuary, There are also numerous verses that clearly show that repentance and a confession of faith are required to receive what was accomplished in the cross. 1Pe 4:18 : And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? But you’ve still got to get up an walk out.” But none of us had that choice with Adam did we? Grace is the only way gospel sets you free. And so they say bad things about you. Christ universal victory is freely available to all, but they have to accept and embrace it. world to come, which will have no end: and if [it] first begin at us; Where was our freedom when Adam fell and doomed us all to an everlasting torture chamber? If Judgment fell on Christ for everyone than how can folks still be lost in the end? Blessings. Christianity, or of the preaching of the Gospel, were times of Reading the article and many reports I take it all this is what people think, what people think is not necessarily what god is saying. I believe all sin was dealt with on the cross. Jewish culture was well known for making an exaggeration to highlight or draw attention to a truth. “Because God loves you he’s going to give you a whipping. If God were somehow going to save everybody, why didn’t He just plainly state it? However we define love, we must include freedom, for without the freedom to walk away, there can be no such thing as love. My fraudulence has finally be exposed. They are speaking to the vindication of the Lord. More works of course! Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. All rights reserved worldwide. Someone whose faith is in the former will interpret the judgment of 1 Peter 4:17 as punishment for Christians. In the words of Spurgeon, “if he has loved you once he will love you forever.”. When Noah told the (1 Pet 4:17). In the beginning, the New Testament church only had to worry about persecution from religious folk. But i know nobody believes that. There are many other Scriptures that speak of second chances, mercy triumphs over judgment, etc etc. ?” How can one who is saved and redeemed still be accursed if he preaches ‘any other gospel’ which I supposed is that he preaches law and be accursed? imply, being introduced with the causal particle, "for"; that So is question #3 referring 2 the fact thst Jesus dying for our sin indicates that if we fornicate or committ adultery we will not be punished for it? 6:13] arm yourselves with the same way of thinking, for # Rom. We have been forgiven.” I don’t consider myself a “universalist” but the above quote from your reply backs up what I believe. The good news is not “you’re going to hell;” the good news is that Jesus died so that you don’t have to. If an earthquake wipes out a city, it’s God judging his house. In saying this, It is very simple to know that Man through Adam have lost his righteousness, because of disobedience.Than Christ comes along, and redeems man from the sin of unrighteousness that he may be righteousness once again, man has been set free from the bondage of sin and disobedience. God forbid” (verse 11). (2) Even though persecution is painful, rejoice on account of the coming glory (4:13). strictly speaking, because Christ has endured this in the room Of the two possible errors, the one you risk is infinitely riskier. of God lol I really do thugh. either us Jews, for Peter, and those he writes to, were such; or However, let’s first read the scripture in context: Dear friends, do not be surprised at the painful trial you are suffering, as though something strange were happening to you. The grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men but unless you receive it by faith it will be of no effect to you. Hey Paul, this has been one of my favorite posts of yours (a solid third to your series on Inclusionism and the other on hell), but I wonder if you still hold to the idea of original sin in light of what i’ve read of your stuff lately? (all the atrocities that our Father never meant for us to experience) God’s beloved children for thousands of years. Great question! He doesn’t force Himself on anyone. and which are fatherly chastisements, and different from God's Why would we need to be in our mortal bodies in order for God to pursue us or for us to respond to His love, to Christ? Paul you do a great job that is very encouraging for me to shift into total grace! I hold to the latter more now than before, seems tom make more sense to me in light of Jesus’ finished work. I love your blog! Don’t Take Verses Out of Context (1 Peter 4:17, Matthew 7:1-2) Perhaps you have seen already that 1 Peter 4:17 is a verse, which is lodged in between a passage speaking about suffering. The context of the command to love each other is the Christian community, the body of Christ, the church. We can remain in Adam’s family or we can get adopted out. her; all his people's times are in his hand, as of comfort, so of But things since escalated. Why put His Son through all the anguish of dying on a cross if He was going to save everybody in any case? I have friends who died rejecting His overtures and I wish that somehow they would yet qualify. If Christ took those who were wiped out in the Flood to heaven than he will do the same for the lost. God doesn’t send anyone to hell; we send ourselves. (3) Don’t let these trials cause you to be ashamed – it’s actually a blessing to be insulted on account of Christ’s name (4:14,16). If not, what else is there? Rms 5:18 “justification that brings life to all men” sounds like “grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men” (Tit 2:11). He died for all sin. 16:17), who was also known as John (John 1:42), and a member of a family of fishermen who lived in … It’s the decision of a judge or authority. 1 He exhorteth them to cease from sin by the example of Christ, and the consideration of the general end that now approacheth: 12 and comforteth them against persecution. But God will not do again what He has already done at the cross. I seriously came 2 inches to accepting the teaching that all are automatically born again just for being human but there is so much twisting of scripture i see done in order to accept it. We have tens of thousands of denominations all of them with their own “truths” so yes “gymnastics” are on full display. (1 Peter 4:17 ESV) The Greek word translated as judgment is "krima," which means a decision or a verdict was made and is not the act of judging. Those adulterers, liars, etc. Either the cross is the once and final solution for sin (Heb 9:26), or it isn’t. Oh, one more thing: I don’t believe we are condemned for Adam’s sins or our own. Change ). I don’t believe in it anymore!” One day the word Hell kept popping up into my mind over and over. It certainly cannot be a good judgement or reward! But I could not find even one translation that does not use the word “judgment” – surprising, really! It is in the queue to be published probably next week. 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